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tsaros · Jun 18, 2007, 04:42 AM // 04:42

It seems to me that warriors r good only for tanking.im not that experienced player thats why i would like ur opinion about that.
I always find it hard to get along against mesmers rangers and necros.i ve tried a lot of builds but nothing.and which is the best armor in ur opinion ?
personally i use gladiators armor

Div · Jun 18, 2007, 05:52 AM // 05:52

Most people use warriors as tanks in farming builds, but they are one of the most capable damage dealers in the game. Gladiator's armor owns.

corey54321 · Jun 18, 2007, 06:09 AM // 06:09

lol i hardly ever use my warrior as a tank i lock and load up my axe and kick some but np i never have problems with aggro or any thing u just kill it fast so it wont hert u simple as that i use sentianl helm ans glads armor all around

Cathode_Reborn · Jun 18, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsaros

It seems to me that warriors r good only for tanking.im not that experienced player thats why i would like ur opinion about that.
I always find it hard to get along against mesmers rangers and necros.i ve tried a lot of builds but nothing.and which is the best armor in ur opinion ?
personally i use gladiators armor

You gotta be specific on where you play and what build you use. In high-end pvp, warriors are the main damage dealers. In pve, people think they're only good for tanking but don't realize they can do massive damage.

tsaros · Jun 18, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26

the build i use is based on a sword
1.sever artery
2.gash
3.final thrust
4.bonnetis defence
5.gladiators defence
6.flurry
7.heal sig
8.vigorous spirit
and i have major vigor rune and superior rune of absortion
in pvp im still tryin to find something nice

Yanman.be · Jun 18, 2007, 09:55 AM // 09:55

You find it hard against necro's, rangers and mesmers, because that's what they're designed to do.

RotteN · Jun 18, 2007, 10:00 AM // 10:00

drop glad's defense, seriously if you waste an elite on something that will only do damage if your foe attacks you in melee, you're doing something wrong ...

flurry is crap, it's the worst IAS in the game if you actually plan on still doing some damage. Flail/tiger stance/frenzy is a lot better.

Warriors are NOT tanks, they're there to beat up stuff. surely in pve you can bodyblock some stuff to give your casters and easier time, but tanking is plain boring and unneeded.

ArKaiN · Jun 18, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsaros

the build i use is based on a sword
1.sever artery
2.gash
3.final thrust
4.bonnetis defence
5.gladiators defence
6.flurry
7.heal sig
8.vigorous spirit
and i have major vigor rune and superior rune of absortion
in pvp im still tryin to find something nice

No wonder you think all you can do is tanking.

Crippling Slash[e]
Gash
Sun & Moon slash
Bull's Strike
Rush
Frenzy
Conjure Flame
Res

Atts:
8+1 str
12+1+1 sword
10 fire

This deals massive DPS. It has no self defense, but I've always been against damaging classes bringing their half-assed healing signets and troll's unguents into PvP. Leave healing to those that heal, and focus on killing.

Charr · Jun 18, 2007, 10:10 AM // 10:10

At first I also tought warrior are only good for tanking (mostly because warriors in PuG are somewhat retared), but then I made one and realised they can do damage, and to prove that I vanquished entire Elona with my hero&henchies(inc.

) using a fighting build.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 18, 2007, 10:16 AM // 10:16

It doesn't help that the Offical Factions guide book or whatever its called says that one of the designers best PvE builds uses [skill=text]Mending[/skill] @ 6 Healing Prayers... 4 health per second isn't going to save your ass, especially in Cantha. Selfheal = [skill=text]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill], rest of your bar is for killing

RotteN · Jun 18, 2007, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Selfheal = [skill=text]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill]

that's not a selfheal, now is it ?

Healing signet is all you need.

tsaros · Jun 18, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06

thanx a lot ppl.very helpful advices indeed. ill try a more agressive build

Div · Jun 18, 2007, 11:23 AM // 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

It doesn't help that the Offical Factions guide book or whatever its called says that one of the designers best PvE builds uses [skill=text]Mending[/skill] @ 6 Healing Prayers... 4 health per second isn't going to save your ass, especially in Cantha. Selfheal = [skill=text]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill], rest of your bar is for killing

If the official guide says so, that must be true!!!!1111one!!one11

Surena · Jun 18, 2007, 11:34 AM // 11:34

Edit: ME: EPIC FAILURE.

Moloch Vein · Jun 18, 2007, 11:51 AM // 11:51

Are the people in this thread familiar with high level PvE?

Exactly how would you suggest a warrior should do damage in Hard Mode Deep or Domain of Anguish without dying?

I'm very interested in hearing some suggestions.

Turbobusa · Jun 18, 2007, 12:51 PM // 12:51

^has anyone said that you better use them in those areas? if so, i'm interrested too.
BUT...DoA and HM deep aren't high level pve, its Player versus exagerated things. come one its just here to wipe you party.
OF COURSE you need the warrior to hold aggro, or you'll be dead in seconds.
WHY don't we use warrior to deal damage?
[skill]searing flames[/skill][skill]glyph of elemental power[/skill]+ elemental lord recently
fight unbalanced things with unbalanced spells.

Stormlord Alex · Jun 18, 2007, 12:53 PM // 12:53

Aside from Elite missions, I run the same warrior builds for Hard Mode as I do for Normal Mode. Tanking is lame in both.

fenix · Jun 18, 2007, 12:59 PM // 12:59

Tanking isn't needed, just bring 1-2 defensive skills (Watch Yourself and something else), and you should be ok.

EroChrono · Jun 18, 2007, 01:17 PM // 13:17

Elite mission in HM is quite something else as "normal" PvE (whether that might be NM or HM)

As for armor; I like Knight's for a normal damage dealing build, I personally find it better to rely on adrenaline instead of energy. Glad's gives you extra, unneeded, energy, Knight's makes you a better tank, but it also means you can focus your build more on damage instead of self healing. Of course this does also depends on your build, but for an adrenaline based build, Knight's is great.

If possible, get Critical Agility, downside being it's an enchantment spell, and thus can be easily removed, besides that it is great. With 14+ attributes in Swordsmanship/Axe Mastery you'll land enough critical hits to *technically* keep it up infinite, for only 5e. More DPS, faster adrenaline recharge -> even more DPS

Age · Jun 18, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbobusa

^has anyone said that you better use them in those areas? if so, i'm interrested too.
BUT...DoA and HM deep aren't high level pve, its Player versus exagerated things. come one its just here to wipe you party.
OF COURSE you need the warrior to hold aggro, or you'll be dead in seconds.
WHY don't we use warrior to deal damage?
[skill]searing flames[/skill][skill]glyph of elemental power[/skill]+ elemental lord recently
fight unbalanced things with unbalanced spells.

Save that for an Elementalist and stick to being a Warrior.Tanks like some said are only used in farming and Warriors are used to dish out damage loads of it.